Limited scope of this fine hobby here on HIP

[Konrad]

...HPA is not  "a toy airplane site"  as you project.

I think you've misread Konrad's intent. I suspect that, like my use of the phrase that it's a tongue-in-cheek reference to the 1960s version of, "The Flight of the Phoenix"

If you've never seen it (which I can't believe is the case), this is the relevant scene.

That, and that the requlatory agencies classify RC aircraft as killer drones. Dispite our love of these flying machines that obey all laws of aerodynamics they are toys in the eyes of most,

[Konrad]

Loved the look from Stewart towards the end of that clip. OK, anything that flys is not a toy.

[ilgk48]

I'll chime in with a personal observation.
In my mind, RC models are built to be piloted (I repeat, piloted) via Radio technology, while a FF model is unpiloted (let's leave aside the towing phase of a glider), but as FF says, it's free to roam, even to escape. Okay, I've stated the obvious, but with today's cramped spaces and the limitations imposed by aviation authorities, I'm glad I can keep my 1941 "Simplex" on a leash (see Aeromodeller June 1984: it's the first example I found) without the pretense of piloting it in an RC sense. In fact, if I were the model, I'd feel like an RD: Radio Disturbed, a constraint that's unbearable for me, a born FF :-).
If I'm not mistaken, the HPA spirit isn't RC modeling in the strict sense, but it's also not about leaving RC technology out the window. So, I find it completely justified to talk and discuss Radio-Assisted models.
Thanks for your attention.

PS.
Anyway, I'll never be able to build the Simplex mentioned above, much less install an RC system (oops! RD    ).

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[Konrad]

Ok, how do you square the round hole as it pertains to CL models?

From my perspective they are all miniature aircraft and take a certain common perspective.

[ilgk48]

Ok, how do you square the round hole as it pertains to CL models?
From my perspective they are all miniature aircraft and take a certain common perspective.

Excuse me: the question about squaring the round holes is for me?

[Konrad]

Ok, how do you square the round hole as it pertains to CL models?
From my perspective they are all miniature aircraft and take a certain common perspective.

Excuse me: the question about squaring the round holes is for me?

Or anyone that wants to explain why this site should cater only to FF. The original HIP was inclusive to all model aviators. I recall the website gave some space to RC. Also the plan site included RC plans. CL (what we old timers called Real Control)looks to be an area that the management wants to support.

I'm fine with the management wanting this to be whatever they wish. I just have some concerns about keeping the original name, (but not the original scope) looks a bit like a bait and switch tactic. From where I sit this is not the Phoenix of HIP rising from the ashes. (Not that there is anything wrong with that).

P.S.
"Original" as the scope of HIP at the end of 2025 circa Nov.

My Sparky thread is anything but RD. It is aimed to be a full blown 3ch RC old timers ( 2X vintage).